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Goku vs Superman vs Odin vs Hulk
Topic Started: Oct 10 2015, 05:34 PM (2,039 Views)
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This is a battle I made long ago but it had EOGT SSJ4 Goku and Thor, now it's SSJG and Odin:

-SSJG Goku from Super.
-Pre Crisis Superman.
-World War Hulk.
-Odin at his best.
-All the other contestants at Full Power.
-Bloudlusted.
-Takes place in Space.

Who wins the battle royal.

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Hm, not sure if Goku is strong enough to beat PC Superman cause the guy is a literal plotting devise. But as far as feats go Goku could beat him I guess.
Plot well with his current showings PC Supes can be vastly strong yet get taken down by a human so yeah.
True, his as strong as the plot needs him to be. By current showing though he's weaker than SSJG Goku isn't he?
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Hm, not sure if Goku is strong enough to beat PC Superman cause the guy is a literal plotting devise. But as far as feats go Goku could beat him I guess.
Plot well with his current showings PC Supes can be vastly strong yet get taken down by a human so yeah.
True, his as strong as the plot needs him to be. By current showing though he's weaker than SSJG Goku isn't he?
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What does the trip to that dinosaur planet put beerus's travel speed at roughly? I'm hearing billions of times the speed of light. Sound right?

Whis is MFTL and beerus is a bit slower yeah but the nebula that their planet is supposed to be in wasn't shown in Super was it? Doesn't that make it harder to to make an estimate?
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What does the trip to that dinosaur planet put beerus's travel speed at roughly? I'm hearing billions of times the speed of light. Sound right?

Whis is MFTL and beerus is a bit slower yeah but the nebula that their planet is supposed to be in wasn't shown in Super was it? Doesn't that make it harder to to make an estimate?
That's the only indication we have as a possible location for him so I guess it's in the nebula seeing as the staff totally decided to omit it.
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What does the trip to that dinosaur planet put beerus's travel speed at roughly? I'm hearing billions of times the speed of light. Sound right?

Whis is MFTL and beerus is a bit slower yeah but the nebula that their planet is supposed to be in wasn't shown in Super was it? Doesn't that make it harder to to make an estimate?
Considering he went from a Nebula to another, yeah. But even if you disregard that Beerus is barely slower than Whis's stuff and that think is fast as f***.
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How strong do you think Beerus is? If the 6/10/15 thing still applies and speed correlates with strength, then Whis himself would be 1.5x faster than Beerus. If his staff is a little faster, that'd still mean Beerus is quite a bit slower than Whis' staff.
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How strong do you think Beerus is? If the 6/10/15 thing still applies and speed correlates with strength, then Whis himself would be 1.5x faster than Beerus. If his staff is a little faster, that'd still mean Beerus is quite a bit slower than Whis' staff.
That doesn't have to be the case, speed never collerated correctly with power gaps, unless you want to imply that SSJ Goku Namek Arc is 18.750x faster than SS Goku, which makes no sense.
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How strong do you think Beerus is? If the 6/10/15 thing still applies and speed correlates with strength, then Whis himself would be 1.5x faster than Beerus. If his staff is a little faster, that'd still mean Beerus is quite a bit slower than Whis' staff.
That doesn't have to be the case, speed never collerated correctly with power gaps, unless you want to imply that SSJ Goku Namek Arc is 18.750x faster than SS Goku, which makes no sense.
Do you have any evidence that it isn't linked? Whenever a fighter has been faster/slower than what their power level would imply, it's been noted (Burter and Ginyu).
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How strong do you think Beerus is? If the 6/10/15 thing still applies and speed correlates with strength, then Whis himself would be 1.5x faster than Beerus. If his staff is a little faster, that'd still mean Beerus is quite a bit slower than Whis' staff.
That doesn't have to be the case, speed never collerated correctly with power gaps, unless you want to imply that SSJ Goku Namek Arc is 18.750x faster than SS Goku, which makes no sense.
Do you have any evidence that it isn't linked? Whenever a fighter has been faster/slower than what their power level would imply, it's been noted (Burter and Ginyu).
I don't have a problem with that, but then Vegito is thousands of times faster than light, do you really wanna go with that route? I can bring you so many examples why it doesn't collerated and ya know it.
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How strong do you think Beerus is? If the 6/10/15 thing still applies and speed correlates with strength, then Whis himself would be 1.5x faster than Beerus. If his staff is a little faster, that'd still mean Beerus is quite a bit slower than Whis' staff.
That doesn't have to be the case, speed never collerated correctly with power gaps, unless you want to imply that SSJ Goku Namek Arc is 18.750x faster than SS Goku, which makes no sense.
Do you have any evidence that it isn't linked? Whenever a fighter has been faster/slower than what their power level would imply, it's been noted (Burter and Ginyu).
I don't have a problem with that, but then Vegito is thousands of times faster than light, do you really wanna go with that route? I can bring you so many examples why it doesn't collerated and ya know it.
At this point, I don't really care. Toriyama's gone on record as saying that he doesn't give a damn about consistency, and any attempt to find consistency in the series has become a fruitless endeavour. I'll bite though, what evidence are you talking about? It took Gotenks a little less than half an hour to circle the Earth seven times (unless Piccolo's the biggest idiot known to man), so is there a huge jump from there?
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How strong do you think Beerus is? If the 6/10/15 thing still applies and speed correlates with strength, then Whis himself would be 1.5x faster than Beerus. If his staff is a little faster, that'd still mean Beerus is quite a bit slower than Whis' staff.
That doesn't have to be the case, speed never collerated correctly with power gaps, unless you want to imply that SSJ Goku Namek Arc is 18.750x faster than SS Goku, which makes no sense.
Do you have any evidence that it isn't linked? Whenever a fighter has been faster/slower than what their power level would imply, it's been noted (Burter and Ginyu).
I don't have a problem with that, but then Vegito is thousands of times faster than light, do you really wanna go with that route? I can bring you so many examples why it doesn't collerated and ya know it.
At this point, I don't really care. Toriyama's gone on record as saying that he doesn't give a damn about consistency, and any attempt to find consistency in the series has become a fruitless endeavour. I'll bite though, what evidence are you talking about? It took Gotenks a little less than half an hour to circle the Earth seven times (unless Piccolo's the biggest idiot known to man), so is there a huge jump from there?
That's not how it goes my friend. You claim we have collerated speed with power levels, if that's the case can you imagine how much faster the likes of Vegito is to Saiyan Arc Goku who's already far above sound speed? Or better yet in thinks like lifting strength etc? You know how many inconsistencies those things create.

Whis's staff > Whis > Beerus can't see how you have a problem with that.
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How strong do you think Beerus is? If the 6/10/15 thing still applies and speed correlates with strength, then Whis himself would be 1.5x faster than Beerus. If his staff is a little faster, that'd still mean Beerus is quite a bit slower than Whis' staff.
That doesn't have to be the case, speed never collerated correctly with power gaps, unless you want to imply that SSJ Goku Namek Arc is 18.750x faster than SS Goku, which makes no sense.
Do you have any evidence that it isn't linked? Whenever a fighter has been faster/slower than what their power level would imply, it's been noted (Burter and Ginyu).
I don't have a problem with that, but then Vegito is thousands of times faster than light, do you really wanna go with that route? I can bring you so many examples why it doesn't collerated and ya know it.
At this point, I don't really care. Toriyama's gone on record as saying that he doesn't give a damn about consistency, and any attempt to find consistency in the series has become a fruitless endeavour. I'll bite though, what evidence are you talking about? It took Gotenks a little less than half an hour to circle the Earth seven times (unless Piccolo's the biggest idiot known to man), so is there a huge jump from there?
That's not how it goes my friend. You claim we have collerated speed with power levels, if that's the case can you imagine how much faster the likes of Vegito is to Saiyan Arc Goku who's already far above sound speed? Or better yet in thinks like lifting strength etc? You know how many inconsistencies those things create.

Whis's staff > Whis > Beerus can't see how you have a problem with that.
I don't have a problem with it. You're the one who's saying that Beerus is 'barely' slower than Whis' staff. Do you think he's just as fast as Whis? You'd have to, otherwise you'd say that the gap is a little bigger.
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How strong do you think Beerus is? If the 6/10/15 thing still applies and speed correlates with strength, then Whis himself would be 1.5x faster than Beerus. If his staff is a little faster, that'd still mean Beerus is quite a bit slower than Whis' staff.
That doesn't have to be the case, speed never collerated correctly with power gaps, unless you want to imply that SSJ Goku Namek Arc is 18.750x faster than SS Goku, which makes no sense.
Do you have any evidence that it isn't linked? Whenever a fighter has been faster/slower than what their power level would imply, it's been noted (Burter and Ginyu).
I don't have a problem with that, but then Vegito is thousands of times faster than light, do you really wanna go with that route? I can bring you so many examples why it doesn't collerated and ya know it.
At this point, I don't really care. Toriyama's gone on record as saying that he doesn't give a damn about consistency, and any attempt to find consistency in the series has become a fruitless endeavour. I'll bite though, what evidence are you talking about? It took Gotenks a little less than half an hour to circle the Earth seven times (unless Piccolo's the biggest idiot known to man), so is there a huge jump from there?
That's not how it goes my friend. You claim we have collerated speed with power levels, if that's the case can you imagine how much faster the likes of Vegito is to Saiyan Arc Goku who's already far above sound speed? Or better yet in thinks like lifting strength etc? You know how many inconsistencies those things create.

Whis's staff > Whis > Beerus can't see how you have a problem with that.
I don't have a problem with it. You're the one who's saying that Beerus is 'barely' slower than Whis' staff. Do you think he's just as fast as Whis? You'd have to, otherwise you'd say that the gap is a little bigger.
No. Beerus is about 40 seconds slower than Whis's staff, you can easily place Whis between that gap and everything is just fine. And we know for a fact that speed doesn't go up linearly with power level.
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How strong do you think Beerus is? If the 6/10/15 thing still applies and speed correlates with strength, then Whis himself would be 1.5x faster than Beerus. If his staff is a little faster, that'd still mean Beerus is quite a bit slower than Whis' staff.
That doesn't have to be the case, speed never collerated correctly with power gaps, unless you want to imply that SSJ Goku Namek Arc is 18.750x faster than SS Goku, which makes no sense.
Do you have any evidence that it isn't linked? Whenever a fighter has been faster/slower than what their power level would imply, it's been noted (Burter and Ginyu).
I don't have a problem with that, but then Vegito is thousands of times faster than light, do you really wanna go with that route? I can bring you so many examples why it doesn't collerated and ya know it.
At this point, I don't really care. Toriyama's gone on record as saying that he doesn't give a damn about consistency, and any attempt to find consistency in the series has become a fruitless endeavour. I'll bite though, what evidence are you talking about? It took Gotenks a little less than half an hour to circle the Earth seven times (unless Piccolo's the biggest idiot known to man), so is there a huge jump from there?
That's not how it goes my friend. You claim we have collerated speed with power levels, if that's the case can you imagine how much faster the likes of Vegito is to Saiyan Arc Goku who's already far above sound speed? Or better yet in thinks like lifting strength etc? You know how many inconsistencies those things create.

Whis's staff > Whis > Beerus can't see how you have a problem with that.
I don't have a problem with it. You're the one who's saying that Beerus is 'barely' slower than Whis' staff. Do you think he's just as fast as Whis? You'd have to, otherwise you'd say that the gap is a little bigger.
No. Beerus is about 40 seconds slower than Whis's staff, you can easily place Whis between that gap and everything is just fine. And we know for a fact that speed doesn't go up linearly with power level.
It actually does but you can go higher
Kkx2 makes speed power and everything double by 2 and pl shows a 2x decrease
People like burter can have a large speed-pl ratio but pl is still a factor
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How strong do you think Beerus is? If the 6/10/15 thing still applies and speed correlates with strength, then Whis himself would be 1.5x faster than Beerus. If his staff is a little faster, that'd still mean Beerus is quite a bit slower than Whis' staff.
That doesn't have to be the case, speed never collerated correctly with power gaps, unless you want to imply that SSJ Goku Namek Arc is 18.750x faster than SS Goku, which makes no sense.
Do you have any evidence that it isn't linked? Whenever a fighter has been faster/slower than what their power level would imply, it's been noted (Burter and Ginyu).
I don't have a problem with that, but then Vegito is thousands of times faster than light, do you really wanna go with that route? I can bring you so many examples why it doesn't collerated and ya know it.
At this point, I don't really care. Toriyama's gone on record as saying that he doesn't give a damn about consistency, and any attempt to find consistency in the series has become a fruitless endeavour. I'll bite though, what evidence are you talking about? It took Gotenks a little less than half an hour to circle the Earth seven times (unless Piccolo's the biggest idiot known to man), so is there a huge jump from there?
That's not how it goes my friend. You claim we have collerated speed with power levels, if that's the case can you imagine how much faster the likes of Vegito is to Saiyan Arc Goku who's already far above sound speed? Or better yet in thinks like lifting strength etc? You know how many inconsistencies those things create.

Whis's staff > Whis > Beerus can't see how you have a problem with that.
I don't have a problem with it. You're the one who's saying that Beerus is 'barely' slower than Whis' staff. Do you think he's just as fast as Whis? You'd have to, otherwise you'd say that the gap is a little bigger.
No. Beerus is about 40 seconds slower than Whis's staff, you can easily place Whis between that gap and everything is just fine. And we know for a fact that speed doesn't go up linearly with power level.
It actually does but you can go higher
Kkx2 makes speed power and everything double by 2 and pl shows a 2x decrease
People like burter can have a large speed-pl ratio but pl is still a factor
I know, but speed doesn't collerate with power level equally.Speed does increase along with power levels but not linearly
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